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"morning joe." now time for "the daily rundown". >>> big disappointment on the job front. employment stalled, unemployment rises to 9.2%, stock futures dropping big-time on the news. the president will address the numbers later this morning. >>> no deal yet, but president obama and congressional leaders will work all weekend and instead of barbs we're hearing words like "constructive" and "productive." optimism abounds as a deal is truly in the works. both sides seem prepared for seergs concessions. what do these jobs numbers mean and will they hold up a deal as it gets rid of a lot of other issues at this point? >>> and with outside groups set to pour millions into the 2012 race, what's an incumbent pro president to do? is fighting fire with fire the answer? it's friday, june 8, 2012. >>> also this morning, waiting the final shuttle launch. will weather clear in time? and we've honored a departed friend you've invited into your living rooms for decades. >>> this jobs report, we thought the big news today would be the debt talks, but a stunning jobs report, gain of just 1
of a short term budget deal in the bud. calls leaders back to the white house. define big. a fresh new hampshire poll out find mitt romney holding strong. both in the primary and general but michelle bachmann has made big gains. is it time for republicans to start rally ago rounds a single candidate? some leaders think so. we'll ask the head of the republican party whether he agrees. and look at these pictures. it's a massive -- this is real. not special effects. 50 mile dust storm. it envelopes phoenix, arizona. downed trees. delayed flights. cut off power to thousands. not rain, folks. dust. wednesday, july 6, 2011. i'm chuck todd. let me get to my first reads of the morning. the idea of a short term debt deal gaining momentum in the senate. president nipped that talk in the bud. >> heard reports that there may be some in congress who want to do just enough to make sure that america avoid defaulting on our debt in the short term but then wants to kick the can down the road when it comes to solving the larger problem of our deficit. i don't share that view. >> the president's public s
's here to dish on the debt and deal in taxes. and big money, big problems? mitt romney's campaign is debt free, but where is all that money coming from? we'll tell you why it could add up to a little bit of trouble for the republican front-runner. good morning, it's monday, july 18th, 2011. i'm chuck todd. just 15 days until default day. let's get right to my first reads of the morning. it's a week of public spectacle and private wrangling. efforts to get a big debt deal done has failed. >> when you look in the past at agreements between divided government, it's taken leadership on both sides. it took reagan and o'neil. it took clinton and gingrich. the president is out there. he's willing to do it. he said it in the state of the union, he said it in the budget. the question is, do we have a partner to work with? and i hope the answer to that is yes. >> this week we'll see a two-track process. publicly, leaders will get a few votes out of the way to allow conservatives to get on the record on a balanced budget amendment and set the table that nothing besides the final deal can pass. meanw
with the big debt talk. congressional leadering returning to the table this morning, after the grand bargain broke down last saturday and a tense 75-minute meeting last night failed to move negotiations forward. at 11:00 this morning, the president will hold a news conference to press publicly for his big deal. yesterday, his top economic adviser said the u.s. is out of options. >> we make 80 million checks a month to americans, 55 million people on social security benefits, millions more americans on veterans benefits, medicare, medicaid. people who supply our troops in combat. on august 2nd, we're left with cash on hand and the cash we take in. there is no credible way to give congress more time. there's no constitutional option, there's no delay option, there's no creative financial option. they have to act by the 2nd. >> no constitutional option, 14th amendment, off the table. here's what we know, debt talks appear to be at an impasse and here's why. the president is still pushing a big deal. democrats say the fallback plan, this $2 trillion plus package that was partially negotiated in
to ask big oil companies and people making over million dollar to do their fair share by increasing revenues. >> have a good fourth of july weekend and we'll see you -- >> big mets and yankees series in new york tonight. i'll be watching. >> i'm always rooting for the national league. always got to stick to it the big guys. thanks. >> thank you. >>> all right. joining me now major garrett chief congressional correspondent for the national journal. doesn't want to kick the can down the road. sounded like a guy -- all right, if that's the deal that's cut and there's a temporary deal and it sometimes right now that's what smells like what's coming. >> he would have said i will vote against that. he didn't say that. >> that's what it's important. >> he didn't say i will vote against it. that's important. it's going to have to be up to the house republican leadership to bring that to the floor to agree to a short-term resolution of this absent a huge deal. eric cantor told me this week -- >> a great column about eric cantor. if we look at it in five pots here, the white house, senate rep
very big, very substantial to bring our long-term deficits down over time. we have to do that in a way that's good for the economy for more support because the economy is healing from the recession. it's going to require both sides to compromise. president's bringing leaders together again at the white house this evening to try to figure out how to move forward. >> what's he actually saying? because you're hearing boehner saying they're demanding tax increases, we're not going to do that. they've also said you were pedalling a bid on whether to cut entitlement programs like medicare or social security. what's the fact? >> that latter thing is not true. the president is standing tough. he is willing to do very, very difficult things. >> like what? on medicare? >> like getting substantial savings from the budget, across the budget. defense, the rest of government, even medicare/medicaid over the long term, there are things we can do responsibly to save money in those programs and we have to do that to bring the deficits under control. but to do that, we have to have some shared sacrifice
, but this is a grave moment for the country. we need to do something very big, very substantial to bring our long-term deficits down over time. we have to do that in a way that's good for the economy for more support because the economy is healing from the recession. it's going to require both sides to compromise. president's bringing leaders together again at the white house this evening to try to figure out how to move forward. >> what's he actually saying? because you're hearing boehner saying they're demanding tax increases, we're not going to do that. they've also said you were back pedaling a bit on whether to cut entitlement programs like medicare or social security. what's the fact? >> that latter thing is not true. the president is standing tough. he is willing to do very, very difficult things. >> like what? on medicare? >> like getting substantial savings from the budget, across the budget. defense, the rest of government, even medicare/medicaid over the long term, there are things we can do responsibly to save money in those programs and we have to do that to bring the deficits under
with markets in a bad way. >>> and then the big tease. julie yanni w giuliani. will think of these folks get in the game? the summer of speculation. good morning, thursday, july 14, 2011, i'm chuck todd. >>> and the nbc campaign team is doing a lot of prep today. doing that behind the scenes but why not to get right to my first reads of the morning, hurdling towards the huge financial calamity. ratings agency moody's put the government on notice for a possible credit downgrade. as leaders try to broker a deal, personal relationships are breaking down. president obama and house majority leader eric cantor clashed yesterday after the president frustrated by the lack of progress, saying it was time to stop postures and get the deal done. cantor went to the press telling his version of story. cantor said, obama got very agitated seemingly and sat there long enough. and no other president, ronald reagan, wouldn't sit here and he said to me, eric, don't call my bluff. democrats dispute his version of the event. one said cantor's account of tonight's meeting is completely overblown. cantor rudely i
's headlines about the campaign's big haul and tell you why we're a tad underwemed. >> >> dyou got to check the sel date, it's wednesday, july 13th, 2013. i'm chuck todd, an unbelievable hump day, feels like it's forever bigger here in washington, where i begin my first read this morning. it's the beginning of the end game for negotiations on the federal debt. with pessimism building that leerds will produce a deal and avoid default mitch mcconnell proposed plan c, a contingency, what i like to call the hail mary punt. he set the stage on the senate floor with this pretty rough attack on the president. >> after years of discussions and months of negotiations, i have little question that as long as this president is in the oval office a real solution is probably unattainable. >> mr. mcconnell said the day i was elected that his job was to try to see me beat. i'll have to explain how it is that we're going to avoid default because i'm going to be president here for at least another year and a half. >> right after that interview, mcconnell unveiled this plan c. he would hand over to the presid
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have a big jump in revenue. obama has been saying let's thai the bush tax cuts are going to lapse and we are going to extend the ones for the middle class. republicans are afraid to let him do that up front. it would kill momentum for a tax reform. >> but, but, but why just get rid of the bush tax cuts. if they are so awful, why not get rid of all of them. get rid of all of them for everybody. if tax cuts are the worst thing ever, the bush tax cuts, get rid of the bush tax cuts for everybody and raise billions in revenue. >> right. i think we could probably figure it out sitting around the table. i don't think it's that difficult. they are locked in in political terms. it's a much different issue to them. you can make rational compromises and deals here. the problem is, how do they do it. what's happening is they are at the point where they realize the consequences. at some point, they realize they have to do something other than hold the ground saying this is it. we're not going to change anything. we are at that point and we have little time to work with. >> howard dean, look wh
need to do that. we have come up with a trillion in cuts. we need to ask big oil companies and people making over a million dollars to do their fair share by increasing revenues. >> let's talk about a short term deal. are you willing to vote for something that is iks to eight months, the trillion, trillion and a half cuts that have been agred to among the biden group to raise the debt ceiling temporarily? can you sign on to something like that? >> chuck, i prefer ton. i wasn't elected to kick the can. the matter is, he can don't need to kick the can. everybody knows what needs to be done. tighten belts, those are the elements of a long term deal that will help our economy grow and prosper in the future. we have done it before. we could do it again. it would be nice it if we had republicans to noe republicans to negotiate in, in good faith. >> some cuts in medicare, i know you guys have been making a big deal about the 45th anniversary of medicare just past, are you going it sign on some t.o. something that has trends m n medicare as long as you don't feel it hits beneficiaries directl
the two minnesotans continues. tim pawlenty went after michele bachmann. >> there's a big difference in talking about things and getting them done. >> this is the third day in a row where we have seen tim pawlenty heat up in his rhetoric against michele bachmann. it's clearly trying to set up the two of them as they go mono on mono for this straw poll. what is interesting, there was a republican debate before the straw poll that takes place in iowa. so instead of everyone going after mitt romney, it's clear that there's going to be a little mini debate going on. all of that in the shadow of what is going on with rick perry and chris christie showing up. lots to go through. we're going to get to that later in the show. let's get to the big story. there's one week left to raise the debt ceiling. two sides feel like they are farther apart than ever. serving on the budget committee, senator, let's start with what is on the table. can you support harry reid's plan as it stands right now in the united states senate? >> no. but i don't think that we're that far apart, chuck. if you take the
with the debt ceiling being raised, no real big agreement on spending and taxes. all that's left now is about a week of political posturing. plus what would happen politically if no deal was reached and the u.s. does default? would voters blame the president for a faltering economy or hold republicans responsible for refusing to make a deal? the answer to that could determine who wins the 2012 election. also, let's go to the videotape. michelle bachmann's husband denying that he ever referred to gays as barbarians, despite the tape that indicates differently, referring to gays as barbarians. we have the full tape on that, and that tops our 2012 coverage tonight. and the drip, drip, drip of the rupert murdoch scandal continues. first, rebecca brooks, the head of newspaper operations on the other side of the pond resigned. and late this afternoon, we learned the ceo of dow jones, which publishes murdoch's "the wall street journal" here in america is stepping down. can murdoch himself stop the scandal completely overwhelming his empire? findly, kumar, as in harold and kumar, is leaving the white
toward a vote next week. the president says he still wants a big deal. but for the first time he's opening the door on senator mitch mcconnell's fall back plan which is gaining momentum on capitol hill. chuck todd was in the briefing room for the news conference. host of "the daily rundown" and luke russert. there was a movement from the president at least towards considering the mcconnell backup plan. what are the chances he still might get what he really wants which is a bigger deal? >> to me -- in a way put together to try to get through this. what you felt was the press conference was about was trying to frame the post game debate, if you will. you heard this from the speaker. suddenly they're back to distancing themselves from the debt ceiling. let's get to the debt ceiling part. we're running out of time on that. maybe there's still time to negotiate this grand bargain. that's sort of what i heard out of this. the president will sign anything that gets to his desk that seems to get through both houses of congress at this point. and then after that, maybe there's a conversat
connell going to play on this? i have a feeling he's going to play pretty big hardball on this to borrow a phrase, chris. seems to me he really is boehner's back. not just having boehner's back today or boehner's back tomorrow, but he's going to have boehner's back. the question is, can harry reid pry away seven or eight republicans to work with him? where does that happen? at this point i don't think you'll see any movement on a deal publicly, at the earliest, not until sunday. >> is the real fear not that there's a second effort to cut spending a bit more, but the second part of this spending cuts which would come at the end of this year, the vote on that, would actually cut to the bone. go after entitlements, medicare, after things the democrats treasurer jer is that the big fear? i think pelosi, former speaker, now democratic leader, was alluding to that in her very strong statement against the boehner plan tonight? >> reporter: that is one fear. you talk to democrats familiar with the way these negotiations have gone, and they'll say, look, this first $1.2 2r8 trillion, the first ro
a lot to talk about. big news over the budget and deficit reduction. president obama is rejecting calls for a short-term hike. he made a rare appearance in the press room. he's challenging them to seize the moment and cut a deal. >> i don't think the american people here sent us here to avoid tough problems. it's, in fact, what drives them nuts about washington. when both parties simply take the path of least resistance. i don't want to do that here. i believe right now, we have a unique opportunity to do something big. to tackle our deficit in a way that forces our government to live within our means. still allows us to invest in that future. >> all right. sounds good. sounds hopeful, it does. maybe something will get done, like everyone is going to come in. less than an hour after the president's invitation, john boehner missed the discussions saying a deal won't pass in the house, if it includes tax increases. he said, i'm happy to discuss the issues at the white house, but the discussions are fruitless until the president recognizes economic and legislative reality. >> that doesn't
. how exciting. >> they match. >> they do match. >> the big news of the day, yesterday, of course, was moody's coming out and saying, listen, we don't expect this to happ happen. the chances are slight this is going to happen. just the chance it may happen, we are going to downgrade america's credit rating. >> we are going to put it on credit watch to downgrade it or we will downgrade it if it happens. first of all, the rating agencies were behind the curve during the whole financial crisis and they took a lot of heat for that. now they are trying to be more proactive. when you have a congress that refuses to address the issue, what do they do? it's not a shocker. it's another symbol of how dysfunctional things are in washington and what the stakes are and how dangerous it is. you know a few people across the globe. >> i like it when mika says it better. >> say international financeer. >> i would think these are trying times for banks across the world. look at ireland a second time. it's spread to italy. we have all heard -- greece, portugal. it's all across europe. it's coming to
should we expect the prosecutor to respond. >> the issue is whether this is one big lie or four little lies. so what the defense is saying is it's kind of like, if you get -- if the case is you lied to a police officer about speeding, you said, oh, well i had to get to the hospital because my mother is dying of cancer. well, when did the doctor tell you this. he just told me that 15 minutes ago. he told me to get here as soon as i can. is that three different lies? the government is going to say, yes. each of those lies required a different action. they took up more government time. they caused more delay from getting to the real investigation of this case. >> how did you -- how would you interpret the judge's questioning pushing back? >> my interpretation of that is -- at least based on the defense argument, he's not quoting the right standard. and the standard is not government reaction. otherwise, if, for example, let's say miss anthony lied and the government -- and the police didn't do anything -- >> let's hold down here a minute. >> are you saying that miss anthony did not have t
think speaker boehner has been very sincere about trying to do something big. i think he'd like to do something big. his politics within his caucus are very difficult. >> well, here's what he means. in a new poll, we see the complicated political caucus they are dealing with. the number of americans who are very concerned about default has ticked up seven points in the last two months. then it was just 35% believe not raising the limit and risking default was worse than raising it and potentially spurring more spending. now 42% see greater risk in a potential default, 47% are more concerned about lifting the limit but the gap has narrowed. that gets you talking about the education of the public in the last two months. look at the republican side. the folks who have been more engaged in this debate since the outset, the numbers have only hardened. 66% of republicans are more concerned with raising the debt limit compared to 60% in may. that number rises to 75% among republicans who identify with the tea party. so this is the issue. and speaker boehner has said he would only raise the d
a big quarter from team obama. fundraisers are predict they will bring in more than the record breaking that george bush raked in in 2003. the campaign tweeted add midnight, we're closing the books on the first chapter of the campaign with 493,697 donors. what does that mean? if he averages $200 a donor, he's going to be at awfully close to $100 million. obama did average $200 a donor the first two quarters as a candidate. campaign keeps pushing back on that. but do the math. in our look at all things independent. in battle ground states and emerging battleground states, the independent share of the voters equal to the two major parties or ahead, all courtesy of a book called how barack obama won, some guy here may have co-authored. in iowa and texas, 21%. in montana, 35%. 45% in new hampshire. bottom line is this, we know elections are won in the middle. wept strong for obama in '08. but the big question is there such a vacuum in the middle that somebody tries to fill it from the outside? we're going to talk about that later today. as bloomberg was first to reported, tim geithner has s
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house back to the table, back to talking about something big. now, look, we still got a long ways to go. it's a weekend of sales jobs going on right now that actually began last night when the president had the congressional democratic leadership over to start talking turkey. so that brings us to the other sticking point, the actual substance. everybody has to figure out what to cut. this isn't going to be as easy as folks think and both sides are moving toward a deal that would include a trigger to assure mutually destructive politically when it comes to the two big items being kicked to committees or joint committees and that's still being figured out, tax and entitlements. one incentive plan would kill bush tax cuts for the rich and key portions of the new health care law if somehow the reforms for the tax code and social security and medicare weren't agreed to and implemented by january 1st, 2013. the question is, is the penalty on the bush tax cuts sort of the idea that you're kicking this down, is that going to be enough to assuage some democrats who believe there's too many cuts
need to do that. we've already come up with a trillion dollars in cuts and we need to ask big oil companies and people making over a million dollars to do their fair share by increasing revenues. >> talk about a short-term deal. are you willing to vote for something that is six to eight months, simply the trillion, trillion and a half in cuts that have been agreed to among, among the biden group to raise the debt ceiling temporarily? can you sign on to something like that? >> chuck, i prefer not to. i wasn't elected to kick the can. the fact of the matter is we don't need to kick the can. everybody know what's needs to be done. tighten our belts, reduce spending, increase revenues, deal with entitlement reform. the elements of a long-term deal that will help our economy grow and pos per in the future. we've done it before. we can do it gren. nice to have republicans to negotiate with in good faith. >> congressman, one of the things that supposedly is getting to have trend's in it, agreed upon according to democrats i've talked to, some cuts in medicare. i know you guys have been m
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sort of nine-month option. despite the drama, is a big deal still in the cards? and as the dealing keel reel i reeling, proof congress is broken beyond repair. some say this congress is the worst ever and he's seen lots and lots of bad ones. >>> to the iowa straw poll break the back of a campaign? sure looks like it. tim pawlenty and michele bachmann going toe to toe lashing out at each other. >>> good morning. this is "the daily rundown," i'm which t chuck todd. >>> house speaker john boehner and harry reid have separate plans in the works to raise the debt ceiling before next tuesday's deadline. house republicans are flat out dismissive of reid's plan for a $2.7 trillion cut since a trillion of the cuts are not really new but simply counting the saving from the wind down of the wars in iraq and afghanistan. senate republicans say reid was with them on a two-step increase process, but that the white house shot that down. and the white house says it's all up to boehner to find a way forward. now, pressure is mounting, so is anxiety over the markets. here's white house chief of staff bi
, here's where things stand. there are three different big deals out there. number one is what the president and speaker boehner and eric cantor are negotiating, which is, yes, a big deal that is separate from anything the gang of six in the senate is working on. and then of course there's mcconnell-reid. one thing that's going on in the last 24 to 48 hours, is any deal that's mcconnell-reid that includes this idea of sort of the disapproval vote, giving the president more power to raise the debt ceiling, that thing has grown to the point of almost being toxic with some house republicans. in fact, they hate it so much, they may prefer to negotiate with the president directly. but for the white house, getting the 217 means making a deal acceptable to at least some of those houses with 87 new members. the man who's made himself their standard bearer, majority leader eric cantor put it this way. >> one-third of the republican conference and one-quarter of the entire house of representatives are freshmen, they're new. many of them have never served in public office before. >> yes,
unpublished research that indicates it might be simply big time peptide disorders. we don't know. i don't think it's as simple as trying to pass by the kentucky fried checken outlet without going in. this is a serious medical problem. we need to know more about it before we know how to treat it right. >> not that i disagree with you, governor but sometimes we reach for more complex reasons when the simpler reasons are in front of us. the tv remote control clicker and video games. this nation is filled with kids from 8 to 18 who never get off the couch. look at the advertisements for the real to life video games we have around us. that's all they play. they don't go out and play catch or run down the block to get milk. >> i think that's true. i didn't mean to say it had nothing to do with it but i think it's going to be a complex set of problems. it's going to defie easy political solutions. >> we'll move on to the budget. nine of ten states with the highest obesity led by mississippi, alabama and west virginia. they lead the nation in diabetes and high blood pressure. it's, you know, ob
. >>> the break down in the house could mean big losses on wall street and beyond. for more on today's trading session, a lot of people watching how all this affects markets, geoff cutmore is live for us in london. >> reporter: good morning. you know the markets would like to see some resolution on this, as well. the meant that the boehner deal seemed to be falling apart, we saw the u.s. futures go negative and that's where they remain at this point. the european market open also has been very lackluster. we're in negative territory and it ain't about the earnings. it's all about getting a settlement to the debt ceiling story. >> and a lot of this country's ceos of the biggest banks are starting to chime in. what are they saying? >> reporter: well, it's been a very tough period for the banks as you know. a lot of people still feel they have a big hand in the responsibility for the credit crisis. but so many years away from that, they are looking to gain from a pickup in the u.s. growth story. but if the debt ceiling issue doesn't get resolved, fears that it would hold back invest himself that
the republicans control the house doesn't mean anything in the big picture other than being very successful in getting the democratic senate and the white house to start talking about spending reductions as opposed to just raising the debt ceiling, so we have been successful that way. but ultimately because the's di don't have a parliamentary system -- >> you just said this word, i just saw jim demint this morning on another news program talk about, you know, no, you know, said no to the boehner plan and he's arguing against the boehner plan, campaigning against it. what do you tell folks who look up to jim demint in that republican conference of yours? >> well, first of all, i think the majority of our colleagues believe that it's important to give our leadership support, number one, number two, when people really stop to think of how far we have moved the discussion from raising taxes to only lifting the debt limit to being able to cut spending at the same rate, then they have to consider it as being quite successful, i think. but at the end of the day, i do believe that my colleagues thi
guns on something he's done his entire presidency, which is when there's a big bill that needs to get through congress, whether health care, whether the stimulus or whether this, he lets congress handle the details. he doesn't present his own legislation. he doesn't say here's my plan. let's amend from this. it's instead, trying to let's grab a piece here, let's grab a piece there. let congress do all the talking. we'll see. it is one of those debates that takes place among folks that observe this president from the outside wondering why does he keep doing it this way. who will win the battle long term? john boehner and harry reid teed up that fight yesterday. >> two groups of people from two different planets who barely understand the language of the other one. they're two remarkably different visions for what the appropriate role of the government should be in our society. how our country operates. it's stark and it would shock most americans. >> any time around here with the new tea party philosophy, they seem to think they have an all-knowing wisdom about the constitution. in shor
chided leaders for missing a big opportunity. >> i think that any plan that simply says, you know, think about this later essentially, and we're going to try and figure out how things went wrong to blame it on the other party is a terrible mistake. we cannot go to august 2nd and tell the rest of the world because we're having this fight in our sandbox back here that we're going to essentially default on obligations of the united states for the first time in our history. that's a level of -- of immaturity that i don't believe this congress is up to. >> warren buffett was at the white house, and the white house talked to reporters this morning. david brooks calls out republican groups who he says decided not to seize the chance to usher in the largest cut in the size of government in american history. he also added, they do not see politics as the art of the possible. they do not believe in seizing opportunities to make steady, messy progress towards conservative goal. they believe if they can remain pure in their faith, some day their party will win a total and permanent victory over its
countries don't play by these rules. >> chuck todd this speaks to a big concern many the edifice behind you, if they cut the deal, if the aaa bond rating is reduced, it will be on the president's watch. >> right. that's been the issue for this white house. that's why number one, they really want to move this debt ceiling issue away from the next two years. yes, it's a political issue. it's also an economic issue. some really bad gdp numbers came on it. all of this uncertainty, we've all known that businesses right now in the last couple weeks they have gotten a little nervous. people have held back they're not sure what's going on. they're not sure how this is going to end. i think -- look, i still have a lot of confidence that when all is said and done they're going to figure it out. all the leaders are on the same page. all of the leaders are on the same page. yes, they have an unpredictable -- an unpredictable group of lawmakers on their hands. so the one thing that i have as a political person, i would find surprising at the end to have day if they do agree to what this deal's going to
going to be prey. the inmates prey on each other, cause disturbances, cause big situations to occur. what happens is, the deputies that are on scene will try to control it. they do a great job. once they start to lose a little bit of control, what they'll do is they'll give us a call. >> sergeant hernandez is in charge of the orange county jail's emergency response team or ert. >> go ahead and grab your gear from the shelves. and just take it outside. >> ert is used for the major disturbances. we are used to quell riotous situations. and we're used to gather intel. >> inside the armory at theo lacey, the emergency response team suits up to confront an inmate considered to be a dangerous threat. >> i'm sending you guys into danger, i know. this is not a drill. this is an ad seg inmate. we all know what that means. correct? that means he's assaultive to other inmates but also assaultive possibly to staff. that kind of amps it up a little bit. >> the inmate is albert briceno. he has been transferred to orange county from a maximum security state prison, in order to appeal his current s
was apparently trying to do, get a big deal in a balanced way. so, that's the good news. again, the details still have to come out and senator durbin, a member of the gang of six said yesterday, they don't have legislative language. the question is, you know, what can be done between now and august 2nd, if anything with the plan or do we need to continue to proceed with a back-up plan, plan b. >> chris, i was going to ask earlier, last hour to steve rattner who was here and suggested if the plan were to go forward, there would have to be a month or two month extension to allow the committee chairman and chairwoman in the house and senate to do their business. this would be the most dramatic reform of entitlement since the reagan era. there would have to be an extension of time for the debt ceiling, would there not? >> i think it's right. we would have to work out some interim arrangement to proceed down that road. again, exactly what the time line would be and that question would remain to be seen. the good news is this provides some additional momentum to the idea of getting something big done.
a big bright light on. what we have been told is that certainly the senior level staffers who, as you understand, are critically important in that, they do a lot of the heavy lifting in negotiations, so the top man for speaker boehner, top man for majority leader reid have had some communication. it kind of hit a wall when it seemed like there wasn't a heck of a lot left to say until the house sort of worked through this process that we think will come to a head today and kind of the wave, point where it seemed like boehner didn't have the votes then the rejiggering of the plan. aides tell me they think that the new number coming from the congressional budget office scoring the boehner plan, gives some credibility to members because those who were the loudest voices saying they want more cuts, according to senior aides can look at this and say they didn't just try to push it through and ignore the congressional budget office, they went back and tried to fix it and admitted they fell short the first time around. they're hoping that will lend some goodwill to those who are now being pus
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